grace potter to appear on one tree hill?

September 4, 2008

Additionally, Schwahn revealed that Grace Potter of the Vermont-based band Grace Potter and the Nocturnals is going to do an episode of One Tree Hill. The 25-year-old vocalist recently gained national attention with her band’s newest album â€œThis Is Somewhere,â€ which blends funky blues, soul and rock from the â€˜60s and early â€˜70s.

Remember that the Apologies was featured prominently on the 100th episode of the show.

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1 Saygracenow September 4, 2008 at 1:23 pm: I am so not surprised with this one. She mentioned recently that this may well be an option for her.
2 bostonone September 4, 2008 at 1:46 pm: I can see her in one episode, then another, and before you know it we have The Grace Potter show! I could watch Grace talk about wallpaper hanging for an hour and never look away.
3 Todd September 4, 2008 at 3:40 pm: Hope she don’t go hollywood on us! Thank god she’s from Vermont! (It might iNoctulate you:)
4 owllover September 4, 2008 at 3:49 pm: I’m with you Boston…I could watch Grace sit in a room with nothing but the 4 walls and be entirely entertained!!
5 Steph September 4, 2008 at 4:11 pm: I have got to stop reading this stuff and watching the direction of this band. It’s so God-damned depressing for me. It’s great that many of you still support it, as it should be a live-and-let-live world. It’s a free country, and to each their own. I just had hoped for something so-so very different for these folks.
6 Anonymous September 4, 2008 at 4:36 pm: I agree with Todd above… is this gal going Hollywood on us? I think one of the greatest attractions to this beautiful woman has been her voice, her carefree attitude, and the fact that she DIDN’T sell out and follow the direction of typical Hollywood female stars. Now I am not so sure anymore… I thought Ms. Potter would raise her standard higher than appearing on soap operas as a way to get some extra dough… but I guess I thought wrong.
7 k. cortez September 4, 2008 at 5:39 pm: So, I think it must be time to pull out my long favorite Dave Eggers essay on selling out. You can read the whole thing here, it’s very good. Here then, is the relevant part.

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You actually asked me the question: “Are you taking any steps to keep shit real?” I want you always to look back on this time as being a time when those words came out of your mouth.

Now, there was a time when such a question – albeit probably without the colloquial spin – would have originated from my own brain. Since I was thirteen, sitting in my orange-carpeted bedroom in ostensibly cutting-edge Lake Forest, Illinois, subscribing to the Village Voice and reading the earliest issues of Spin, I thought I had my ear to the railroad tracks of avant garde America. (Laurie Anderson, for example, had grown up only miles away!) I was always monitoring, with the most sensitive and well-calibrated apparatus, the degree of selloutitude exemplified by any given artist – musical, visual, theatrical, whatever. I was vigilant and merciless and knew it was my job to be so.

I bought R.E.M.’s first EP, Chronic Town, when it came out and thought I had found God. I loved Murmur, Reckoning, but then watched, with greater and greater dismay, as this obscure little band’s audience grew, grew beyond obsessed people like myself, grew to encompass casual fans, people who had heard a song on the radio and picked up Green and listened for the hits. Old people liked them, and stupid people, and my moron neighbor who had sex with truck drivers. I wanted these phony R.E.M.-lovers dead.

But it was the band’s fault, too. They played on Letterman. They switched record labels. Even their album covers seemed progressively more commercial. And when everyone I knew began liking them, I stopped. Had they changed, had their commitment to making art with integrity changed? I didn’t care, because for me, any sort of popularity had an inverse relationship with what you term the keeping ‘real’ of ’shit.’ When the Smiths became slightly popular they were sellouts. Bob Dylan appeared on MTV and of course was a sellout. Recently, just at dinner tonight, after a huge, sold-out reading by David Sedaris and Sarah Vowell (both sellouts), I was sitting next to an acquaintance, a very smart acquaintance married to the singer-songwriter of a very well-known band. I mentioned that I had seen the Flaming Lips the night before. She rolled her eyes. “Oh I really liked them on 90210,” she sneered, assuming that this would put me and the band in our respective places.

However.

Was she aware that The Flaming Lips had composed an album requiring the simultaneous playing of four separate discs, on four separate CD players? Was she aware that the band had once, for a show at Lincoln Center, handed out to audience members something like 100 portable tape players, with 100 different tapes, and had them all played at the same time, creating a symphonic sort of effect, one which completely devastated everyone in attendance? I went on and on to her about the band’s accomplishments, their experiments. Was she convinced that they were more than their one appearance with Jason Priestly? She was.

Now, at that concert the night before, Wayne Coyne, the lead singer, had himself addressed this issue, and to great effect. After playing much of their new album, the band paused and he spoke to the audience. I will paraphrase what he said:

“Hi. Well, some people get all bitter when some song of theirs gets popular, and they refuse to play it. But we’re not like that. We’re happy that people like this song. So here it goes.”

Then they played the song. (You know the song.) “She Don’t Use Jelly” is the song, and it is a silly song, and it was their most popular song. But to highlight their enthusiasm for playing the song, the band released, from the stage and from the balconies, about 200 balloons. (Some of the balloons, it should be noted, were released by two grown men in bunny suits.) Then while playing the song, Wayne sang with a puppet on his hand, who also sang into the microphone. It was fun. It was good.

But was it a sellout? Probably. By some standards, yes. Can a good band play their hit song? Should we hate them for this? Probably, probably. First 90210, now they go playing the song every stupid night. Everyone knows that 90210 is not cutting edge, and that a cutting edge alternarock band should not appear on such a show. That rule is clearly stated in the obligatory engrained computer-chip sellout manual that we were all given when we hit adolescence.

But this sellout manual serves only the lazy and small. Those who bestow sellouthood upon their former heroes are driven to do so by, first and foremost, the unshakable need to reduce. The average one of us – a taker-in of various and constant media, is absolutely overwhelmed – as he or she should be – with the sheer volume of artistic output in every conceivable medium given to the world every day – it is simply too much to begin to process or comprehend – and so we are forced to try to sort, to reduce. We designate, we label, we diminish, we create hierarchies and categories.

Through largely received wisdom, we rule out Tom Waits’s new album because it’s the same old same old, and we save $15. U2 has lost it, Radiohead is too popular. Country music is bad, Puff Daddy is bad, the last Wallace book was bad because that one reviewer said so. We decide that TV is bad unless it’s the Sopranos. We liked Rick Moody and Jonathan Lethem and Jeffrey Eugenides until they allowed their books to become movies. And on and on. The point is that we do this and to a certain extent we must do this. We must create categories, and to an extent, hierarchies.

But you know what is easiest of all? When we dismiss.

Oh how gloriously comforting, to be able to write someone off. Thus, in the overcrowded pantheon of alternarock bands, at a certain juncture, it became necessary for a certain brand of person to write off The Flaming Lips, despite the fact that everyone knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that their music was superb and groundbreaking and real. We could write them off because they shared a few minutes with Jason Priestley and that terrifying Tori Spelling person. Or we could write them off because too many magazines have talked about them. Or because it looked like the bassist was wearing too much gel in his hair.

One less thing to think about. Now, how to kill off the rest of our heroes, to better make room for new ones?

We liked Guided by Voices until they let Ric Ocasek produce their latest album, and everyone knows Ocasek is a sellout, having written those mushy Cars songs in the late 80s, and then – gasp! – produced Weezer’s album, and of course Weezer’s no good, because that Sweater song was on the radio, right, and dorky teenage girls were singing it and we cannot have that and so Weezer is bad and Ocasek is bad and Guided by Voices are bad, even if Spike Jonze did direct that one Weezer video, and we like Spike Jonze, don’t we?

Oh. No. We don’t. We don’t like him anymore because he’s married to Sofia Coppola, and she is not cool. Not cool. So bad in Godfather 3, such nepotism. So let’s check off Spike Jonze – leaving room in our brains forâ€¦ who??

It’s exhausting.

The only thing worse than this sort of activity is when people, students and teachers alike, run around college campuses calling each other racists and anti-Semites. It’s born of boredom, lassitude. Too cowardly to address problems of substance where such problems actually are, we claw at those close to us. We point to our neighbor, in the khakis and sweater, and cry foul. It’s ridiculous. We find enemies among our peers because we know them better, and their proximity and familiarity means we don’t have to get off the couch to dismantle them.
8 Vtshome September 4, 2008 at 6:09 pm: So Grace is having fun exploring her talents. She has always said she wanted to act well I tell you most actors first roles are nominated for academy awards.

When This is Somewhere came out there were songs on it I and a lot of other fans hated and we thought this was a sellout. But most of them grew on me and I realized that I love the band for who they are not because I love all their music.

Grace go on and have fun explore life….it’s too damn short to worry about what people think. The important people in your life will always support you and the band even when your old and gray no matter what you do.
9 Saygracenow September 4, 2008 at 6:31 pm: Selling out? Hoped for something different? Raise her standards higher?
I am not sure that I know enough about this sort of thing to comment intellegently but I do know this for a fact. If I were one of her parents or one of her good friends I would be giving this lady one big hug right now and screaming congratulations at the top of my voice. This band and the individuals in it work extremely hard and are wondeful people. They deserve everything and anything that comes their way.
10 k. cortez September 4, 2008 at 6:43 pm: According to a One Tree Hill Blog – Grace is already filming scenes.

Here is a far away image . . . .

http://www.onetreehillblog.com/2008/09/04/filming-info-94-2/

That’s clearly Grace there.
11 Steph September 4, 2008 at 7:13 pm: I should clarify my previous statement… One Tree Hill has nothing to do w/”the band.” The Nocs are not in anyway participating. The song being featured was written by Grace and recorded with studio musicians. Selling out is a popular term, and whether someone is doing it can be debated ’til the cows come home. G can do whatever she wants in life, and with her career. It doesn’t matter what I or others say or think. That said, support should not always be delivered via blind affirmation. Sometimes you support someone by disagreeing with them. I’ve learned the most from people that have challenged me in life, not the yes men.
12 Anonymous September 4, 2008 at 7:14 pm: “They” would be great. Here’s my question. “They” implies The Nocturnals. Now, I am all about Grace Potter and the Nocturnals making it big… are The Nocturnals part of this bigger picture? I am just keeping my fingers crossed that the whole band is heading for the right direction, as opposed to a No Doubt/Gwen Stefani route. Are The Nocturnals part of One Tree Hill?
13 k. cortez September 4, 2008 at 7:28 pm: Well, if the picture I linked to above is any indication then no, “they” don’t appear to be there.

Steph seems to know something about this that the rest of us don’t. So Steph, are you not happy that Grace might be appearing on her own without the rest of the band? Just curious.
14 Steph September 4, 2008 at 7:33 pm: No – they are not a part of One Tree Hill. I just barely beat you w/my click, Mr./Ms. Anonymous. Lovely name by the way…sounds Greek.
15 Steph September 4, 2008 at 7:59 pm: Well, I’m obviously not smart enough to make up Greek names, so now I’m on the spot. Me and my big mouth…or fingers… Answer: No, that’s not really it. I’d be bummed out if Ryan Adams were on that show too (I’m hoping that doesn’t come to fruition). Then I’ll have to go home and smash his albums too. Just kidding…well…maybe not…One Tree Hill is a bit of an abomination.

Signed, Mrs. Anonymodopoulos (AKA, another a-hole w/an opinion)
16 k. cortez September 4, 2008 at 8:06 pm: Ryan would probably release a new record in the time it took you to smash the ones you own – that’s a losing battle.

Would one have to own a television to experience this “One Tree Hill” thing? ‘Cause if that’s true, I’m out.
17 toofarnorth September 4, 2008 at 8:33 pm: Has been quite a while since I’ve read that piece by Mr. Egger’s – always liked these lines – for some reason remind me of Warren Zevon’s “Enjoy every sandwich” comment about living your life.

What matters is that you do good work. What matters is that you produce things that are true and will stand. . . . . . . . .
What matters is that you want to see and make and do, on as grand a scale as you want . . . . . . . . .
What matters is saying yes.

Even though live with a TV addict, I watch very little and have not a clue about One Tree Hill. But, as long as Grace is writing and singing and performing the great music I’ve come to expect, I don’t really care what other opportunites she explores. In fact I think it is wonderful that she has this chance for a new experience, everything a writer does is potentially an inspiration for new song material.

I am a serious fan of the guys and think they are fantastic musicians so I am not overlooking their importance in the least. But since concert dates don’t seem to be affected and there was recent mention of going into the studio to record a new album – guess I don’t see why Grace doing a “solo” on One Tree Hill is an issue as far as GPN is concerned. I haven’t been around as long as most of you so am I missing something ? ?
18 toofarnorth September 4, 2008 at 8:48 pm: btw – love the comments left below the picture on the OTH website – new fans for GPN’s music in the making – was nice to see your hospitable post too K.C. :]
19 Steph September 4, 2008 at 8:58 pm: KC – but you haven’t seen how fast I can smash. And, definitely do NOT invest in a TV to watch OTH. Poster above – no you’re not missing anything. I just hate OTH and that kinda’ crap, so I’m probably over-reacting, and frankly being a bit of a snob. I just believe that Grace is so much more than that show can ever hope to be.

AAHWAO
20 Tedheadone September 4, 2008 at 9:25 pm: I’m sorry….it’s all my fault… …..I lobbied long and hard for the resurrection of “Apologies”…knew it would be perfect for TV soundtracks and look where that has gotten us…

Have fun, Grace, on this new adventure.
21 toofarnorth September 4, 2008 at 10:56 pm: Went hunting for info on OTH and there seems to be a lot of interest in this show. Maybe not the most original premise, but this will be it’s sixth season so must be doing something right. More importantly it seems to be a very good showcase for a musician.
Wiki is the easiest way to get aquainted . . . brought a fews bits over
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Tree_Hill_(TV_series)

Music plays a huge part in both the plot and the movement of the scenes throughout an episode.

The show has a long list of artists that have participated in the show; Gavin DeGraw, Sheryl Crow, Michelle Branch, The Wreckers, Tyler Hilton, Jimmy Eat World, The Honorary Title, Fall Out Boy, Nada Surf, Jack’s Mannequin, Michelle Featherstone, Lupe Fiasco and Within Reason

Other well-known bands whose songs have featured on the show include: Angels & Airwaves, Mclusky, Snow Patrol, Keane, Starsailor, Travis, Feeder, Dashboard Confessional, Led Zeppelin, The Cure, Switchfoot and Foo Fighters

The show has released three soundtrack albums: . . . . . . .

A site is dedicated to the music that has been on One Tree Hill:
http://www.oth-music.com

Hey Ted – -no “Apologies” needed in this corner – sorry, couldn’t resist – in fact you get a :thumbs up: !
22 guava6982 September 5, 2008 at 7:56 am: I think that this is a bit crazy of us to be over analyzing. Grace kicks ass, and she will kick it on tv, in the studio, on the stage, in interviews, writing songs, and flying to the moon if she wants to. Selfish is it to not be happy for her attempting to reach out to a different audience. I am a member of the posse and the whole point of that group is to spread the word. I dont think it is up to the fans to determine that OTH fans are not worthy of Grace. This is her career, and we have no right to judge her and call her names such as ‘hollywood’ and ’sell out’. I think that to support someone, is to support them 100%, agree or disagree with thier decisions. Call me a yes woman if you want, but in reality she does not have to answer to us fans, and she should not have to defend her decisions to us. I think that this says a lot about our country and our unwillingness to pay attention to shit that really matters. What if I dont agree with her supporting Obama? Should I de-nocturnalize myself becuause we have different polictical views? Hell no, that is politics this is music. And I find it especially intresting that we all get in a huff over a television show rather than over politics. It is so typical to bitch and moan over shit that does not matter, and when it comes to the real issues we aint got anything to say. If any of this gets back to Grace I hope that she reads this: I support you, and I think that it is bullshit that anyone would look down on you for trying to share your kickassness with the rest of the world. Keep it groovin’ girl, you know you keep me groovin’!
23 Steph September 5, 2008 at 8:56 am: Maybe it is a bit crazy and time-wasting to blog about this so much. I doubt you’d be writing the same thing if there were 22 comments here reading: “Atta’ girl!” Nor would you be making accusations that those who participate are apolitical, uninformed, and don’t care about the world. Why does this site even exist? We’re all wasting our time being here; unless, of course, we take a moment to blow sunshine and pander to Grace. Then, you’re obviously an insightful, politically informed, and totally righteous individual.
24 guava6982 September 5, 2008 at 9:34 am: No accusations here…I am not big on blogging debates…unless of course it is about Mr.Columbus. He is running for president right? Anyway, I apologize if I made you feel as if I was making accusations or assumptions about those of us who find each other untied by this band. In agreement, I would say that it is a high quality individual who supports this band. However, on that note, I know a lot of high quality individuals who dont support GPN…and that is ok too! I still support those ‘un-nocturnal folks’ for who they are, even if they have no idea what they are missing! I was just trying to keep it real that we are all untied because we love and support Grace and the nocs., and I dont see that wavering in anyway for the majority of us, no matter how much they in your book or mine ’sell out’.

and..thanks for the article mojo, I had never read that one and I enjoyed it thouroughly. You da man!
-Larissa
25 Kired September 5, 2008 at 9:45 am: And here I am home sick and my sunshine blower is in the shop. I don’t think any of us have a real f’n clue what Grace’s or Matt’s or Scott’s or Bryan’s intentions are. Having met and spoken to them a couple times I can speculate that they are going to do what they deem necessary to keep getting paid to make music. What is the point, if you can’t continue to make music?

Sometimes you have to be a little commercial. Actors and directors are constantly talking about how they make a paycheck on a blockbuster so they can do what they like. Is George Clooney a sell out for doing the “Ocean’s” movies considering they aided him in making movies like “Good Night, and Good Luck.”

When we become obsessed with whether an artist is selling out, we are ultimately concerned about the erosion of our own coolness and having to share our precious obscure toy. I’ve been guilty of abandoning artists and using those “sell out” words too. In the grand scheme of things, who the hell am I? Why should I determine what course their career should take? I am no one, and I shouldn’t. Nough said, cause ultimately it’s about the music, and until they start sucking, I don’t care what the f#$% they do.
26 toofarnorth September 5, 2008 at 9:56 am: guava – - I have most definitely been untied by this band and their music – sorry, work has me bored out of my skull today and couldn’t resist – - and agree that we are united by our interest in them. It’s all about the music.
27 toofarnorth September 5, 2008 at 10:00 am: (note to self – hit F5 before hitting submit)

Great post Kired !
28 k. cortez September 5, 2008 at 10:03 am: my sugary sweet sickness gland is acting up . . .
29 Kired September 5, 2008 at 10:07 am: *sniff* *snuffle* Group HUG!
30 k. cortez September 5, 2008 at 10:25 am: It’s actually very easy to calculate the level of selling out. Let’s do it for “Apologies” previously, on One Tree Hill . . .

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2007/sellout-songs/
more info here, http://tinyurl.com/ytmh39

I get a Moby Number of 41.06 which translates into very little selling out. Please use your own numbers and report back.

This has been a public service announcement on behalf of “Plant Tongue In Cheek Productions”.
31 toofarnorth September 5, 2008 at 11:04 am: Awww – passes tissues to Kired – is it possible to be verklempt and laughing at the same time ?
Going to go play with the PSA toy now . . . . .
32 Steph September 5, 2008 at 11:04 am: Group hug back at you all. Good debatin’! ‘Tis the season, ya know! At least we’re not all jerkies that can’t disagree, get heated, and then say “good discussion” and shake hands.
33 Karen September 5, 2008 at 12:06 pm: Love the Dave Eggers piece, which I have read before, especially the Flaming Lips part and this portion in particular:

â€œBut you know what is easiest of all? When we dismiss.

Oh how gloriously comforting, to be able to write someone off. Thus, in the overcrowded pantheon of alternarock bands, at a certain juncture, it became necessary for a certain brand of person to write off The Flaming Lips, despite the fact that everyone knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that their music was superb and groundbreaking and real. We could write them off because they shared a few minutes with Jason Priestley and that terrifying Tori Spelling person. Or we could write them off because too many magazines have talked about them. Or because it looked like the bassist was wearing too much gel in his hair.â€

I had a good quote from David Byrne (Talking Heads) that went along with this in a fan loyalty sense, however the link has expired. May not do it justice by paraphrasing but. . . . Referring to a music project that wasnâ€™t well received by all their fans, he said something to the effect that hopefully those not appreciating it would say: â€œOk, I donâ€™t like this very much, but I respect their right to do it, and Iâ€™ll wait until they come out again with something that I do like.â€

I wonâ€™t see Grace in OTH (donâ€™t have â€œdeep cableâ€), but Iâ€™d watch that episode if I could. Break a leg, Grace.
34 guava6982 September 5, 2008 at 12:20 pm: Thanks for pointing out that miss spell. Think about how bad off we would be if we stood untied? Not good. Group Hug…good discussion.
-Larissa
35 Saygracenow September 5, 2008 at 12:32 pm: Larissa, I just wanted to confirm that Mr. Columbus is running for President.

BTW- Group hug back to all of you!
36 toofarnorth September 5, 2008 at 1:28 pm: guava . . I really did pick up on and like the imagery of “untied” with respect to the way the band’s music makes me feel.
Didn’t mean to come across as the language police – believe me I am seriously unqualified – very sorry if offended in any way.
37 guava6982 September 5, 2008 at 8:42 pm: not at all. I kinda like the analogy of being untied too. In fact, that is what I really meant, really it is. I see now, at first you thought, oh how insightful of her, then you realized it was a typo and thought, geech what a cliche’. United we stand, untied we groove!
38 Tedheadone September 5, 2008 at 9:45 pm: FURTHER FODDER:

Grace is doing a solo show at The Tamarack at Burke MT, VT, on October 4th…
39 snowbird September 5, 2008 at 9:53 pm: hey all – love the spirited discussion, this is great stuff in my opinion. We all are a bit different in how we’ve arrived at feeling how we do about the music that this band, and our other favorites creates.

Does that mean that we can agree to disagree with each other.

I hope so. The very fact that ther has been so much commentary about all this is a good thing in my humble opinion!
40 snowbird September 5, 2008 at 9:55 pm: Damn – forget to mention the untied/united thing – to me that is just an awesome slip of the fingers Larissa!! sometimes you must untie to unite!!
41 Steph September 5, 2008 at 10:38 pm: I completely concur. Healthy debate is important. We don’t all have to agree, and I don’t think that any of us have changed our original positions. The noteworthy thing through all of this discussion is that even though we got heated, no one ever got disrespectful. That happens so frequently online b/c folks can hide behind a fake name and their computer. I recently read a negative review on the Crowes and the comments that followed said review were astonishing….very low brow “you’re an effin’ this and that.” I’m so happy to see that’s not the case here.
42 Danado September 6, 2008 at 10:53 am: Kired for President!
43 owllover September 6, 2008 at 12:59 pm: well, all I can say is I didn’t post it, but sure thought it Steph!

I think you took it to a personal level when you mentioned all of us wasting time here, blogging, being “atta girl” people. We all have our own opionions, but to me, that was a bit disrespectful, but I have seen some posts from you before that I thought the same thing. While I do respect your opinion, I sure don’t respect how you voiced it.

signed….ATTA GIRL!!!!!!!
44 Steph September 6, 2008 at 2:32 pm: Well, that’s the danger in the written word, because your interpretation of what I wrote was not at all what I meant. I was being sarcastic in an attempt to respond to the poster before me who mentioned that it was crazy to be over-analyzing things so much. My contention was that she wouldn’t think we were crazy if there were lots of “way to go” posts here. I wasn’t saying you guys were “atta’ girl” people, as I respect your opinion(s) in being happy about this new OTH development. Anyhow, Larissa clarified her comments, and even if she hadn’t, I totally respect her for voicing her opinion at all. That said, I am very snarky and sarcastic, and my humor often doesn’t come across in written form in the way I mean it. Or…maybe it does and it’s just too wise-ass like. So, I can understand if you wanted to in the past, present of future call me an effin effer. That’s OK.
45 owllover September 6, 2008 at 4:12 pm: now THAT post I loved, and I loved the way you put it too. you cracked me up!!

I can totally appreciate sarcasm…so now that I see it that way, makes perfect sense. thanks for clarifying!
46 Tedheadone September 6, 2008 at 5:03 pm: Anyone care to share your thoughts on “Falling or Flying” inclusion on Greys Anatomy Soundtrack Vol 3………Steph??

“discuss amongst yourselves”
47 k. cortez September 6, 2008 at 5:08 pm: Did anyone read the Dave Eggers piece I linked to up above? I’m just wondering, I only see three outgoing clicks.

Please take some time and do it, it’s very informative.

And Tedheadone, is that baiting?
48 Saygracenow September 6, 2008 at 5:40 pm: Greys Anatomy- Huge show with a huge audience. Inclusion was not only good, it’s terrific! Anyone ever here of Snow Patrol before that show played their tune?
49 Tedheadone September 6, 2008 at 5:45 pm: Just doing my best to engender vigorous discussion in this, the season of the electorate.

{and as you might guess, I’m one of the three and read it top to bottom}
50 k. cortez September 6, 2008 at 6:14 pm: I still haven’t heard of Snow Patrol!

Grey’s Anatomy not cool because that Dr. Burke guy was homophobic – you know, or something.

Sandra Oh is cool though right? Because she was in Sideways with a friend of mine along with a play called “Stop Kiss” which is pro-lesbian although not political so that’s cool right?

Grey’s Anatomy cool because Kate Walsh rocks

You know, until she sold out and went on that other obviously inferior show.

Seriously though Steph, the “direction of this band”? I don’t think a one-off with national exposure is necessarily the “direction of the band” do you? is there evidence that after, what, 150 shows already this year that the band (or Grace) has plans to appear on as many teen-oriented night time soap operas as possible? Because that would be “direction”. If they do go that “direction” I just want to be on record as saying that it sucks that “My So Called Life” is no longer on the air.